The Black Sites: A rare look inside the C.I.A.’s secret interrogation program — Read this, and then tell me we haven’t lost this grand War on Terror. We’ve beaten ourselves, by throwing away our humanity, our morals, and our principles. I have a hard time even thinking about how badly we’ve hurt ourselves here; the damage is severe, and ongoing, and yes, far worse in the larger sense than the casualty count of 9/11, as horrible as it was. (Don’t dare try to say I don’t care about that.)

And don’t start with they started it; they deserve it. If that’s honestly your defense, please do us both a favor and go talk about it somewhere else, ok? If you actually want to try and make a reasoned argument about this, on the other hand, I guess we can gird our loins and start the debate. Feel free to comment away…I admit I’m interested in the state of mind that can defend the place we’ve ended up.