Comments on: My ACLU “Stop Indefinite Detention” email http://kenzoid.com/2009/06/30/my-aclu-stop-indefinite-detention-email/ Welcome to my world... Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:33:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ken Kennedy http://kenzoid.com/2009/06/30/my-aclu-stop-indefinite-detention-email/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Ken Kennedy Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:07:30 +0000 http://kenzoid.com/?p=1725#comment-87 No worries, Ron! Glad you decided to comment. I've been slow in keeping up<br>with my feeds as well...I recently started using Feedly again (FF plugin<br>that integrates w/ Google Reader), and after accepting (this time!) that it<br>requires me to adjust my pattern of use a little bit, I'm finding I really<br>like it. If you're a FF/GReader user, recommended.<br><br>Regarding the topic at hand...I'll definitely keep yelping. It's a topic<br>that resonates ethically with me in a very deep way. I don't even consider<br>the "watch out for our boys" considerations on this subject and torture to<br>be the most important points, as some people do (though they're certainly<br>relevant). It's just wrong. Many situations in the real world are<br>complicated, and contain nuance and shades of grey; I understand (and even<br>celebrate!) that. Some, however, are not; this is one of them. There are<br>times when you can claim things are honest mistakes, there are situations<br>where you can say you've changed your mind, or even were deceived. This is<br>none of the above, and we can't claim anything but shame. No worries, Ron! Glad you decided to comment. I've been slow in keeping up
with my feeds as well…I recently started using Feedly again (FF plugin
that integrates w/ Google Reader), and after accepting (this time!) that it
requires me to adjust my pattern of use a little bit, I'm finding I really
like it. If you're a FF/GReader user, recommended.

Regarding the topic at hand…I'll definitely keep yelping. It's a topic
that resonates ethically with me in a very deep way. I don't even consider
the “watch out for our boys” considerations on this subject and torture to
be the most important points, as some people do (though they're certainly
relevant). It's just wrong. Many situations in the real world are
complicated, and contain nuance and shades of grey; I understand (and even
celebrate!) that. Some, however, are not; this is one of them. There are
times when you can claim things are honest mistakes, there are situations
where you can say you've changed your mind, or even were deceived. This is
none of the above, and we can't claim anything but shame.

]]> By: Ken Kennedy http://kenzoid.com/2009/06/30/my-aclu-stop-indefinite-detention-email/comment-page-1/#comment-39 Ken Kennedy Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:07:30 +0000 http://kenzoid.com/?p=1725#comment-39 No worries, Ron! Glad you decided to comment. I've been slow in keeping up<br>with my feeds as well...I recently started using Feedly again (FF plugin<br>that integrates w/ Google Reader), and after accepting (this time!) that it<br>requires me to adjust my pattern of use a little bit, I'm finding I really<br>like it. If you're a FF/GReader user, recommended.<br><br>Regarding the topic at hand...I'll definitely keep yelping. It's a topic<br>that resonates ethically with me in a very deep way. I don't even consider<br>the "watch out for our boys" considerations on this subject and torture to<br>be the most important points, as some people do (though they're certainly<br>relevant). It's just wrong. Many situations in the real world are<br>complicated, and contain nuance and shades of grey; I understand (and even<br>celebrate!) that. Some, however, are not; this is one of them. There are<br>times when you can claim things are honest mistakes, there are situations<br>where you can say you've changed your mind, or even were deceived. This is<br>none of the above, and we can't claim anything but shame. No worries, Ron! Glad you decided to comment. I've been slow in keeping up
with my feeds as well…I recently started using Feedly again (FF plugin
that integrates w/ Google Reader), and after accepting (this time!) that it
requires me to adjust my pattern of use a little bit, I'm finding I really
like it. If you're a FF/GReader user, recommended.

Regarding the topic at hand…I'll definitely keep yelping. It's a topic
that resonates ethically with me in a very deep way. I don't even consider
the “watch out for our boys” considerations on this subject and torture to
be the most important points, as some people do (though they're certainly
relevant). It's just wrong. Many situations in the real world are
complicated, and contain nuance and shades of grey; I understand (and even
celebrate!) that. Some, however, are not; this is one of them. There are
times when you can claim things are honest mistakes, there are situations
where you can say you've changed your mind, or even were deceived. This is
none of the above, and we can't claim anything but shame.

]]> By: wrongainey http://kenzoid.com/2009/06/30/my-aclu-stop-indefinite-detention-email/comment-page-1/#comment-38 wrongainey Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:51:23 +0000 http://kenzoid.com/?p=1725#comment-38 I know it's been up a while, but just came across this. (I have to be better about checking the various feeds :-).<br><br>But this is most definitely one of my major issues. It is stupefying and oxymoronic to even speak of "law" in this context. Without some means of due process, it can't be called law, period. Keep up the yelping. Maybe if there are enough of us, somebody, somewhere might hear. I know it's been up a while, but just came across this. (I have to be better about checking the various feeds :-) .

But this is most definitely one of my major issues. It is stupefying and oxymoronic to even speak of “law” in this context. Without some means of due process, it can't be called law, period. Keep up the yelping. Maybe if there are enough of us, somebody, somewhere might hear.

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